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Post by Buckfever on Jun 6, 2006 16:33:55 GMT -5
Well I paced off 15 steps which is about 13 yards from the 80 meter mark putting me right at 100 yards. This was a trully humbling experience. On my first group I put an ACC into some deadwood completely missing the target. I was able to unscrew it out of there. Then I switched to Goldtips till I sighted in. I completely lost one of those. Then I tried to shoot groups with the Goldtips, yeah right. So I went back to the ACC's and managed to at least get close to being sighted in. On the last one I dropped the one to the right so I called it a day right there. This is definitely a new challenge, I'll give it a few weeks and then I want to take it to 100 meters if I have that much clearance back in the woods. One thing that very bizarre is the delay before it hits the target, it's actually pretty cool. Last three groups:
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Post by ncboman on Jun 8, 2006 5:32:13 GMT -5
I once tried hanging a very small split shot clamped onto limp momofilament line to get extra range from the sight. Bad idea. At the shot, the split shot whipped and took out two of my pins.
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Post by indianadan on Jun 8, 2006 6:53:44 GMT -5
Nice job George.
I tried shooting from 100 yards one time. It was pretty laughable.
At the time I was shooting decent from 60 yards using a pin set for 60. I decided that I'd go out in the hay field next to my house and shoot the round hay bales at 80-100 yards using judo tipped arrows. I used the Kentucky windage method and when I aimed I put my 60 yard pin on the target taking notice of how high my 40 yard pin was. Then I would raise my bow up so my 60 yard pin was slightly higher than where my 40 used to be. This method worked well at 80 yards. When I tried this method from 100 yards my arrow fell about 5 yards short of the hay bale. lol I had to figure out how high to hold my 60 yard pin to shoot 100 yards. I had to hold so high that the bale of hay was out of the site picture, and as a result I wasn't very accurate.
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Post by Buckfever on Jun 8, 2006 8:18:07 GMT -5
Yeah it's definitely something I didn't appreciate. Really I was feeling so confident at 80 meters, I didn't think it be that much harder at 100 yards. But the trajectory required to get there, makes it a much longer shot than the additional 13 yards. The only thing I have to check is whether I have room for a 20 yard pin where I have the sight mounted now. That's going to be the limiting factor, as I don't like messing with things too much.
I'll tell you though and I don't know if I can, but if I can put them all in the second ring in, that will be a whole other level for me.
I can't emphasize it enough. The long range shooting absolutely demands that you hold that bow and execute the shot right. And then when you do, it's amazing how easy it is. Basically you learn how to not interfer with the bow and let it do its thing.
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Post by ncboman on Jun 8, 2006 11:23:53 GMT -5
What I've learned shooting long distance is how important a good clean release is, even with mechanical releases. Even if I'm holding like I want, if the release isn't perfect, the result isn't either. Knowing that makes an archer even better at closer ranges.
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Post by Twanger on Jun 8, 2006 13:28:53 GMT -5
I agree. The difference between shooting 60 yards and 100 yds is HUGE. I was having to aim 20 feet above the target with my 50 yd pin to hit at 90. Target wasn't even in the sight picture. Sixty is my practical working limit these days for target practice.
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Post by Buckfever on Jun 8, 2006 20:50:35 GMT -5
What nc said:
"What I've learned shooting long distance is how important a good clean release is, even with mechanical releases.
Even if I'm holding like I want, if the release isn't perfect, the result isn't either"
It bears repeating.
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Post by eshoremd on Jun 8, 2006 20:58:13 GMT -5
when i get my bow back ill show you guys some shootin
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Post by ncboman on Jun 8, 2006 21:06:47 GMT -5
A couple of days ago I tried experimenting with this back tension releasing George was posting about. At 50yds I was missing the whole target 2 out of 3. Set in my ways I guess because I'm way better squeezin em off.
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Post by Buckfever on Jun 8, 2006 21:44:49 GMT -5
"Set in my ways I guess because I'm way better squeezin em off."
NC it could be that you're utilizing backtension while your squeezing off the shot. It could be that by clean release you mean that you're not collapsing at the shot.
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Post by ncboman on Jun 9, 2006 0:13:06 GMT -5
You're losing me there. ;D A clean release is like porn. I can't describe it but I know it when I see it.
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Post by Buckfever on Jun 9, 2006 7:46:40 GMT -5
Now that I'm using the backtension, I realize that what I used to refer to as a clean release was mostly, me just maintaining the the tension, while squeezing off the shot.
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Post by Buckfever on Jun 9, 2006 12:28:15 GMT -5
I only got 2 groups of 11 as I was with my son and worked with him a lot and we were running out of time as my daughter only had a couple of hours of school here on her last day. I changed the target face, I really like where I can see a big white circle with a black dot in the center, better. I can see it better at 100 yards. We're not using a scope here this is just a hunting setup. Here I'm continuing to sight in so I'm just using the Goldtips. I've put a 100 grain point on them so they weigh with in a couple grains of the ACCs with the 85grain point and the FOC is very close, they balance at near the same spot, so they're hitting now just about to the same spot. Here close to sighted in, again with the goldtips: Doesn't seem as ominous as it did the first time.
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Post by Buckfever on Jun 14, 2006 13:32:38 GMT -5
I worked on the bow and shortened up the string loop and brought the bow back to specs. The cam was over rotated and so the draw was a little long. I probably tightened it up 5/16ths, between the cam and the string loop. I also moved the the peep, which was still off but I corrected it in the field, after sighting in and shooting these groups: With the goldtips: I've got a ways to go yet. But I am no longer intimidated by this distance.
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Post by Buckfever on Jun 14, 2006 18:36:06 GMT -5
I just spoke to the director of the Archery club that maintains the course and was informed that I was misinformed and that the marked distances are in yards. So I'm only at 93 yards. I guess I'll have to step back a few more paces next time.
He invited me to the shoot on Sunday. I might go.
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