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Post by ncboman on Oct 30, 2006 22:30:38 GMT -5
Doin this last sizable job before I leave for huntin and what a can of worms I've opened. I knew it was a double layer of shingles to remove and knew the top layer was put on with 3" roofing nails so I priced it accordingly. What I DID NOT know was the bottom layer was put on with 3 1/2" nails and under the shingles is panels of 2" polyiso foam insulation board glued to the subdeck. Result; impossible to get the bottom layer nails up without tearing/crushing the foam. ok, we just take off the top layer and leave the bottom layer. Easy. all except to do the job properly, 3 1/2" nails are needed. Only Maze nails come in that length and they are $100 a box + $100 shipping for next day delivery ... if they can be had at all. find out in the AM where I stand on getting the nails pronto.
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Post by freedomrules3 on Oct 30, 2006 22:52:51 GMT -5
Yikes 3 1/2 inch roofing nails are about as uncommon as it gets. I have no doubt in my mind you'll pull it off . I've had delays along the way on this job i'm on. Finally just got the treads today for the stairs. gonna have to push it along now, still waiting on railing parts but that can wait if necessary. ;D
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Post by ncboman on Nov 1, 2006 9:52:56 GMT -5
well the nails just showed up, all $842 worth of em. $400 in shipping!!! time to round up the posse and get to it. got an appointment.
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Post by Rock Chuck on Nov 1, 2006 22:26:44 GMT -5
This kind of reminds me of my former boss. Before I started roofing for him, he bid a flat roof on an old 3 story building downtown. Apparently, he kicked around the roof a little to get a feel for it, but he failed to take a core sample. He didn't want to pack patching material up 3 floors to do a core. It turned out to have a full 18" of asphalt on it. The joists were bowed to the point of breaking and they all had to be replaced. The owner paid to replace the joists, but my boss was on the hook for the tear-off which, needless to say, was grossly underbid. In this case, though, it was just laziness. It wasn't something that he couldn't have seen if he'd followed standard procedure and took a core.
It would be interesting to know how that many layers got on there without anyone figuring it out. They could have killed a bunch of people if it had collapsed.
Dick
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Post by ncboman on Nov 2, 2006 7:48:51 GMT -5
In retrospect, I should have seen in the beginning something was up but my eyes were looking at paying the bills thru the rest of the year instead of the beams inside the house on 8ft centers. Fortunately the customer is very well heeled and just wants a good quality roof regardless. We all learn as we go to some extent. I thought putting membrane over existing buildup roofing was a good ticket until I learned what multiple vapor barriers REALLY means to roof life and performance.
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Post by ncboman on Nov 3, 2006 9:14:00 GMT -5
Well, we carried the wind yesterday and got it covered. One large chimney to flash and a few caps to put on and I'm done with this one. I'll take some pics today. It's a beauty.
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