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Post by freedomrules3 on Apr 19, 2006 20:43:48 GMT -5
ok on my bow right now is this little wire thingy that is supposed to be a rest  . i shot with it last night like that but its gotta go. i'll put up a pic to show you what i mean . should i just shoot it off the shelf? i'll have to move the nock if so. or is there a rest that is recommended for trad bows? i need something that wont let the arrow flip off the rest lol , this wire just aint gonna work. is the wire just to keep the arrow from flipping up or is it really the rest the previous owner said it was the rest but its kinda pathetic. i'll post a pic in a sec. |
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Post by freedomrules3 on Apr 19, 2006 21:10:02 GMT -5
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Post by ncboman on Apr 19, 2006 22:00:30 GMT -5
What's wrong with the wire rest? Personally I'd remove all that fleece right away. Got to be rough on the feathers. My recurves have flipper type rest. The Mamba came with this one.  arrow restsThey work for me and are cheap enough. It's a good idea to have an extra on trips.  I don't care for shooting off the shelf but if you try it, you definately need an arched shelf. Doesn't look like your bow is made for it but hard to tell with all the fleece. I value my feathers as they aren't cheap and wear out fast enough just going thru the flipper. The fleece on your bow wears the feathers out over 3x faster and probably isn't consistant either. Arrow noise isn't an issue with recurves like with compounds. Recurves are inherently quiet to handle.  I kinda like the wire if it works and don't strip feathers. |
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Post by freedomrules3 on Apr 19, 2006 22:16:33 GMT -5
the arrows i shot last night were some of my older ones with vanes, so i have no idea yet if the wire is rough on the feathers or not. i plan on shooting a lot on saturday afternoon so i'll give the feathers a try then. the wire is very non restrictive but it also lets the arrow slip off rather easily. i have to be careful i don't pinch up against the arrow with my leathers, it does a 90 degree turn if i pinch the arrow. its gonna take a while to get it all together , baby steps . |
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Post by ncboman on Apr 19, 2006 22:34:59 GMT -5
yeah, you gotta feather up your arrows to get consistant accuracy from recurves. The arrow pinch is something I don't have problems with. It may help to add a lesser nock set below your standard one. Be sure to allow extra room so it doesn't pinch the arrow at full draw. By feeling the lower nockset, you know not to tighten up to the nock any closer. I'm sure you'll soon get past that regardless. If your nock snaps on the bowstring it should be easy to overcome. The joints and broken bones in my right hand are hurting. That's my problem with shooting so much without a release.  |
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Post by kyle on Apr 20, 2006 7:58:09 GMT -5
No rest needed. Actually, I prefer to have the arrow as close to my hand as possible. Think about it like this. If you're directing that arrow by pointing your left hand at the target, wouldn't it be beneficial to have your arrow travel as close to your hand as you can get it? I shoot selfbows off my top knuckle and so do many of the guys I shoot with. The shelf is your rest. Get some velcro (the fuzzy side) and put a little on the shelf, directly over the deepest part of the grip. If the shelf is rounded, put it on the highest part of that. If it's flat, put a LITTLE something under the velcro (like a matchstick or toothpick so you've got just a small point of contact with the arrow. Put a strikeplate on the side of the shelf cutout (sight window), another piece of velcro will work fine for that.
If you use a rest, you can not cant your bow and shoot it consistantly. You can use the rest, but you will have to shoot it straight up and down. I see LOTS of guys shooting trad at our club and our big trad shoot every year and I bet I couldn't fill one hand's worth of fingers counting those shooting off rests. It's just one way to complicate something that's supposed to be simple.
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Post by freedomrules3 on Apr 20, 2006 21:34:53 GMT -5
"The joints and broken bones in my right hand are hurting. That's my problem with shooting so much without a release." my " carpenter hands" get pretty sore from years of abuse and overusing them. after shooting the other night i could feel it in my hand the next morning. unfortunately arthritis ( which basically it is) doesnt get any better by trying to work it more or trying to strengthen it, it just gets more sore lol. i'll get used to it , bowling isnt any good for it either but i still do it . what did ya get the broken bones from you old hellraiser you |
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Post by freedomrules3 on Apr 20, 2006 21:38:14 GMT -5
No rest needed. Actually, I prefer to have the arrow as close to my hand as possible. Think about it like this. If you're directing that arrow by pointing your left hand at the target, wouldn't it be beneficial to have your arrow travel as close to your hand as you can get it? I shoot selfbows off my top knuckle and so do many of the guys I shoot with. The shelf is your rest. Get some velcro (the fuzzy side) and put a little on the shelf, directly over the deepest part of the grip. If the shelf is rounded, put it on the highest part of that. If it's flat, put a LITTLE something under the velcro (like a matchstick or toothpick so you've got just a small point of contact with the arrow. Put a strikeplate on the side of the shelf cutout (sight window), another piece of velcro will work fine for that. If you use a rest, you can not cant your bow and shoot it consistantly. You can use the rest, but you will have to shoot it straight up and down. I see LOTS of guys shooting trad at our club and our big trad shoot every year and I bet I couldn't fill one hand's worth of fingers counting those shooting off rests. It's just one way to complicate something that's supposed to be simple. i'll definitely give that a try, it makes sense to have the arrow close to the hand . i'll keep the wire rest just in case i decide to put it back on though. so most trad shooters cant the bow slightly, interesting i may have to try that. i've been shooting it upright so far. i'd like to not get into any bad habits that are too hard to break . |
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Post by kyle on Apr 21, 2006 7:54:36 GMT -5
You can cant the bow different amounts and still be accurate with it. I've seen Terry Green from Tradgang shoot his bow all angles from straight up to completely flat and still stack 'em. That's shooting off the shelf tho.
I'd put it like this - Traditional HUNTERS shoot off the shelf. Recurve traget shooters shoot off a rest. No - that's not a 100% rule, but I'd bet my next paycheck that its 85% right.
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Post by freedomrules3 on Apr 21, 2006 18:22:32 GMT -5
i think i'll like shooting off the shelf better anyway. when i used to shoot a recurve way back i used the shelf then too. of coarse i wasnt all that great with one but being 30 years younger then i expected things to happen much faster than i do now . after shooting a couple days in a row my left wrist is perty sore right now, not really sure if it is the shooting or i did something at work , but i can sure feel it. or I'm just getting old lol |
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