80 meters, 4th session, cheating with the ACCs

[Buckfever]

First of all I wasn't going to snap any pictures as it is my first session at the longer ranges and clearly I was rusty. Secondly I want to point out that this was my last group of the session and probably one of my worst groups as I was getting tired. The one just before was a good bit better. But I took it because I wanted to illustrate the performance of the ACCs. They do hit a little lower, with the Goldtips traveling 285.5 whereas the ACCs are moving at 278.5, but what you're seeing here is pretty representative of how tight the ACC's group. It is an observation that I could see up close where differences are small and it holds true here at the longer distances.

And another reason I posted this up, is because I want to illustrate how one can improve with just a little consistent shooting. So down the road some here when it looks like I'm showing off, what I'm really showing off are the rewards of discipline and persistance and that my friends is available to anyone.

As far as the XT the jury remains out. The bow likes back tension, I like to relax and squeeze the shot off. I need more time at 80 meters before I'll know.

First picture is with 12 Goldtips and I believe 6 ACC's at 80 meters.



Second picture is the same as above with the Goldtips removed.



Third picture is from last year on the same target with the Outback and the Goldtips, this was later in the season so I was shooting good for me:

[ncboman]

80meters

My rangefinder doesn't read in meters. ;D

oh boy. Monkey see, monkey do. ;D

good shootin btw.

[Buckfever]

Well that's 87 yards. You're very kind regarding the shooting. I thought that was kind of sucky. I may get out there again today.

[ncboman]

Just hitting the paper consistantly at 80 meters is excellent shooting IMHO.

How is your sight set up to get that kind of range? Isn't there a point where it bottoms out and if so, have you found what range that is?

[Buckfever]

I was a little higher with that last pin with the Goldtips but I finished up today with the ACC's so I brought that down a bit. Morava, uses the wire right at the top of the level to get out to 100 yards. I think with the Goldtips I can get out over 100meters or around 110 yards.

I got that Spott Hogg from Tom, used I think for $60. It's got a hard mount so the initial setup is a PITA, but it's rock solid.

[Buckfever]

I'll bet sometimes Tom Morava wonders if I'll ever get anything, but I promise you that I hear everything he tells me. I might not understand it right off, but it does register. Today was the first day that I triggered the release using back tension. I've used back tension before however I still triggered the release with my finger as I was applying the backtension.

Today was different I wrapped my finger around the trigger, way
further down on my finger and simply used the backtension to pull my hand back and trigger the release. And he told me that I'd be able to, and he's right I can get that shot off just as
fast as triggering the shot.

The only thing now is that I have to completely reconstruct my
shooting. I'm going to need to focus on triggering the shot with back tension for a while and not worry about aiming.

The other thing too, is that I can absolutely relax at the shot
without putting any additional pressure via my bow arm. Yeah he told me that too.

I really believe this is going to help my shooting tremendously!!!

This was a big day for me.

80 meters:


Finding how to trigger with backtension after those first 3 to the right:


Backtension feeling better:


ACC's:


Here getting a little tired and dropping to the left, last session:

[Buckfever]

It was windy out so I decided to only use the Goldtips. And I continued to work on burning in the release with backtension. I really can't believe how easy it is to shoot this way. I still have work though on really burning the technique/form in.

Except for the 2 two the right, which was clearly me, I started feeling a little more comfortable here:



So on the last one, while I really didn't try to aim, I did try to focus on relaxing a little bit more, since the backtension was coming off clean. Almost had them all in the white.

[Twanger]

buckfever - that's the same sight I've got... the Spott Hogg. Solid sight.

[Buckfever]

Do you use a large aperture peep and line that up with the round sight guard?

[Twanger]

Yes. That's exactly what I do. I'm a fan of Bill Winke (Peterson's Bowhunting) and that what he does... so I thought I'd give it a try. Len at Macrotech set it up. It takes a little getting used to, but I like it. What takes getting used to is that you don't center the pin in the peep, so at long range you're more and more out of alignment between the center of the peep and the pin. It's fine, but different than what you're used to, and just takes practice. What I like about it is that you don't have to change your anchor point to shoot the longer distances SINCE you don't put the pin in the center of the peep. Better for consistency. As a crutch I set it up so that my 20-yd pin is in the center of the ring. That way on a close shot I can center the pin or the ring and it doesn't matter. This costs me having pins beyond 70yds (they would be below the ring), but that's not a bid deal because I don't shoot much at that distance.

[Buckfever]

I started off with shooting 5 goldtips and 6 ACCs:

Now that might not look all that telling. But I looked at that group and thought of what Rick said yesterday about how he was grouping better with the Goldtips and I thought I have 11 ACCs with me, I think I can put them all in the white.
So here's my first group with the ACC's and I make my sight adjustment:


Just for you Rick ;-):

Another view:


So now I'm feeling good, so I let them go fast and loose:


Except for the flyer this group is absolutely crazy:


Seriously though the XT and me are getting along a whole lot better.

[freedomrules3]

all i can say is WOW

exactly what do you use to aim with. my pins will only go to about 50 after that i would have to use my bubble then the bottom of the sight ring . are you basically instinct shooting from that far back? that is way out there.

[Buckfever]

That bottom green pin right there:


You just have to move the whole sight down so that the 20 yard pin is near the top of the sight guard.

[ncboman]

shooting a fast bow doesn't hurt either. ;D

That's extremely good shootin.