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Post by hunt4fun1 on Jan 16, 2006 22:49:32 GMT -5
Anyone use tobacco products in your stand or blind or while you hunt?
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Post by freedomrules3 on Jan 16, 2006 22:59:04 GMT -5
if i had a cigarette back for every one i had to smash out because of deer, i would have a free carton coming my way. i know the king of the woods might not like it that well but if i'm doing everything right, hes never gonna get a wiff of my smoke. NC smokes like a chimney and my guess is he's killed more deer than nearly anyone here. i've had times when i actually think it helped me out by getting the bedded deer up downwind . they try and move out and before they know it they cant smell it anymore. problem is they have just moved upwind of me and into sight . i personally dont think smoking or pissing in the woods ruins anything. it may sometimes but not more than 10% if i'm doing things right. i believe movement in the stand is the hunters worse enemy, much more than smoking.
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Post by hunt4fun1 on Jan 16, 2006 23:06:44 GMT -5
The last deer I shot was 20 yards away and down wind. Legal daylight was just damn near gone so I sparked one up. I never heard that animal walk up....and he walked up through heavy brush......my smoke was blowing right at him. I blew cigarette smoke trough my grunt tube to stop him and the rest of the story is all in the freezer.
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Post by ncboman on Jan 16, 2006 23:36:11 GMT -5
I've seen mature bucks change their mind and direction over cig smoke and baccy spit both. I've seen younger deer come in to both, esp LG spit. win some, lose some. I think to kill mature deer it is better not to smoke but many times a 'last cig' has kept me up a tree and into action. Also, once in a while the smoke shows a thermal that moving a few feet higher gets away from so it can work both ways, for you and against. If you figure in the extra miles you can foot and the extra years you can hunt, it's a pretty sure bet being tobacco free allows for more time in the field. If you're a trophy hunter, you need to like time in the field abundantly. ;D
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Post by eshoremd on Jan 17, 2006 6:05:24 GMT -5
so far i havent had any problems that i know of. the day i shot that freedomrules3 2008 buck i was smoking like crazy. the wind was in my favor. butt, dont leave your butts in the woods. i flick my backy out then just stick them in my left pants pocket. but remember to take them out before you wash your clothes.
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Post by tailnbone on Jan 17, 2006 11:37:33 GMT -5
After cutting down smoking cigarettes this past year I can go 4 - 6 hours without having a smoke. I still smoke on stand but usually only 1 or 2 on a morning or evening hunt. Like Freedom said, I've had to put out alot of smokes myself because the deer were coming in. I have to agree it's the hunters movements that gets him busted more often than smoking. I've had deer run right up within 5 yds while I got a smoke hanging outta my mouth. It didn't seem to bother them as long as I didn't move. I take a ziplock bag with me and at the end of the hunt the butts go in there and come back out of the woods with me. If its a warm day and the thermals are rising I tend to maybe smoke a little more, but if it starts to cool down and the thermals are sinking to the ground I'll put it out and hold out as long as I can.
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Post by hatracked on Jan 17, 2006 12:22:00 GMT -5
Smoke is a natural smell in the woods, and our forefathers of American hunting the indians used it quite regularly to gain the upper hand on game. I'll follow their lead much quicker than Will primos and his "cheese factor rules". After all the indians hunted to live, while todays "hunting guru's" hunt for money and prestige and to sell folks who dont know any better products like scent loc.
I can shoot my bow just fine with a smoke hanging out my mouth and have done it so many times I will staunchly defend my position for the rest of my life that it isnt a big alarm to a deer.
You can simplify the question by simply realizing that the smoke emmitting from your lungs, or the cigarette is also being mixed with your scent as the source is the same and anyone with any sense knows that you cannot eliminate your odor to a level that will hide it from a deers nose. If he smells your smoke its likely he smells you and in the old indian method , if anything it helps to disguise your scent by overloading the animals nose with smoke.
All that said, bowmans right, we all should quit with the bacca products. I can see a noticable difference in my ability to hike and exert myself physically these days. It is killing me!I seond the NO BUTTS IN THE WOODS statement. My pockets always have a few in them if I have a real pet peve its seeing butts on the ground anywhere. Thats just slack.
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Post by campkingmd on Jan 17, 2006 22:46:48 GMT -5
I quit smoking in the woods maybe 10 years ago, can't say one way or the other how it has effected my hnts but listening to you guys I should start again. It does help give you wind direction, low pressure and high pressures.
I do sure look foward to firing one up back at the truck after the hunt
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Post by ARO on Jan 17, 2006 23:26:40 GMT -5
i cant help ya guys on this one, i dont smoke or chew and never have. although i do believe no matter how much cover scent and many scent loc suits you where, if a mature buck or doe is down wind of you, you are busted. an old doe will pick you off quicker then anything, then blow at you a dozen times, just to make sure every deer in the county knows your there.
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