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Post by tailnbone on Oct 6, 2006 22:24:32 GMT -5
In all of your guys experience over the years what do you think about the chances of taking 2 deer out of the same stand in one season would be? Not at the same time, but over a course of two weeks to a month. I mean, lets say I shoot a doe now....in the next week or so, do you think I would have a chance at taking a quality buck out of the same stand when the rut comes around? I thought about this last year.......when I had plenty of opportunities of taking a doe, but didn't want to risk losing out on the huge buck I'd been seeing out of the same stand. Once I saw him, he became my objective. I had some nice big doe within 10 yds of me last year during and around the rut but I had seen the big guy two times, with all of the doe, almost within range twice and he made it through last year. He did manage to make it in range once......when I could no longer see my sight pins but could manage to still make him out in the afterlight. He'll be around my stand this year....I know that for a fact.....I just don't want to screw anything up for a possibility of having a chance at getting him. What do you guys think? Any help would be greatly appreciated.......even from teams 2 thru 4 lol.
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Post by Buckfever on Oct 6, 2006 22:47:45 GMT -5
I've taken lots of deer out of the same stand, many times the same day. I have one stand right now that I could probably take 4-5 deer out of, so long as I only hunt it when the wind is right and only if I go in the afternoons. I would not have a reservation taking a single lone doe out of the stand as long as it wasn't too warm and early in the afternoon, necessitating pulling her out immediately. It's when you get a group of 3-4 and you sure as hell ain't going to kill all of them and the chance of getting busted or at least alerting some of them is an issue.
Any deer that you educate about that spot, hurts your chances. Everytime they come through there they will alert the other deer they are with regarding that spot.
On the other hand, if you are trully talking about a monster buck, the true 1-2 dominant bucks of the area, I'm not sure they even pay any attention to what the other deer do until breeding time.
Maybe if we knew more about your setup. Is this a doe area that the bucks come and cruise come rut or is this close to the buck's core area? Do you know where he beds?
Cuz if this is just a doe area, I'd be popping does next couple of weeks at least until I'd start seeing some breeding scrape activity.
Plus I like killing a certain amount of deer to maintain proficiency. I lose some skills when I don't.
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Post by freedomrules3 on Oct 6, 2006 22:58:09 GMT -5
Absolutely you can. I would focus getting a doe in the next few weeks before the pre rut. I took 4 from the same spot last year and could have taken more. I also was never busted in the spot which also helped. Buck is right about the more educated they get about you the less deer you will see near there. that is just their nature.... "somethings gonna get me "
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Post by tailnbone on Oct 7, 2006 20:31:27 GMT -5
Right now I have 2 different properties to hunt on this year.....working on a 3rd and 4th that will be gold mines. I hunted both places last year that I can hunt this year. The one place I'm setup is close to a doe bedding and hanging out area.......I always see doe from this stand no matter when I go and 90% of the time they come within range. I also see alot of bucks around close to the stand...within range....but more so towards the rut.......it's almost like an area the bucks just travel thru looking for does, but if there's a doe in heat he will hang around for several days. This is where the heavy 8 pt lives. The other place is pretty much the same way. This other place... it's not uncommon that I'll have around 18 doe within 20 yds of me at all times when they come around to feed on soybeans, thats alot of eyes to contend with. This is where the big boy lives. I saw him earlier this year and my dad has seen him recently. He's gotta go atleast 24" wide if not more and is atleast a 16 point. He's definitly a mature buck....I would say he's between 4-1/2 to 5-1/2 years old......his body is huge......he's well over 250 lbs. This is the deer I really want to focus on this year. Maybe I'd be better off taking a doe from the other place and not risk screwing up the setup for the big guy. This is my dilema........what do you guys think?
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Post by Buckfever on Oct 7, 2006 21:54:21 GMT -5
Pretty much how you see it.
The only thing that I would add, that is if it is found on the property you can hunt, is that I'd know where both those bucks bed, I'd need to know their staging areas and where they setup the breeding scrapes.
It sounds to me like you're where you need to be for the rut, but are missing out on the prerut setups.
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Post by tailnbone on Oct 9, 2006 9:09:25 GMT -5
Unfortunatly I can't get permission to hunt on the property where I think the bucks are bedding. Other people hunt those properties and want no one else there. However, the doe bed in both places I hunt. ;D
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Post by ncboman on Oct 9, 2006 10:38:06 GMT -5
What is the terraine like where you hunt? Flat, semi hills, big hills, rugged?
Do the deer bed up or down in relation to landscape and road elevation?
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Post by tailnbone on Oct 9, 2006 13:14:20 GMT -5
The terrain is mostly flat with some ravines and hills. Elevation changes might be about 40 feet total......Bottom of a ravine to the top of a hill. The ravines are a thicket in some places, this has got to be where the bigger bucks are bedding down. I did have a small buck bedding in a thicket about 60 yds behind my stand a couple years ago...this is on flat ground. There are a few properties around the area that some folks just absolutely do not want anyone hunting on their property and killing their deer. I think alot of the bigger bucks know that, due to no hunting pressure, and live there for the most part. Until the rut comes around and then they take a chance on visiting all of the area doe hangouts. Even though the hills aren't very high in elevation, I'd say on average between 20 - 30 feet, 90% of the time the bucks will bed down closer towards the bottom. Just my observations while out hunting & scouting.
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Post by BillCartwright on Oct 9, 2006 16:42:06 GMT -5
very doable as long as you have not clued a bunch of deer to your location. We've had some stands produce 4-5 bucks over the course of a 20 days. Some funnels can be just that good.
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Post by Twanger on Oct 9, 2006 17:09:27 GMT -5
I've taken 4-5 deer out of the same stand during a season. It helps if you take singletons. Whack a doe out of a big group, and you've educated the rest.
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