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Post by freedomrules3 on Jun 3, 2005 19:34:17 GMT -5
wondering if anyone has had luck good or bad with brands of outboards. since my daughter has taken up a liking to fishing, i'm looking into buying a cheap boat. if anyone knows me they know what i mean by cheap lol under a grand and hopefully around 6 bills . i'm most likely to get stuck with what i buy but most 14 foot v hulls like i am looking at are generally the same . difference is the brands of motors on most. i have heard evinrudes last best and to stay away from a mercury. just curious if anyone knows anything about boats and motors. i have actually found really great deals on bigger boats but being simple i just want 2 things to worry about 1 the motor runs and 2 there are no leaks in the boat . any help would be listened to looking for something like this below. it will be used primarily in the bay here and on the pocomoke river. i may do a little deer hunting using the pocomoke as access too cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7159696598&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
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Post by ncboman on Jun 4, 2005 0:36:48 GMT -5
well I disagree with what you heard. Basicly, there's not much difference one brand to another. I like Mercury motors but Johnson, Evinrude, Mariner, Honda, and Suzuki are all good motors. Big differences in boats though and I'd consider carefully to that end. Aluminum is noisy and the wind blows them easily. Fiberglass is heavier and lasts far longer. Also the design of the boat can keep you dry or wet you down in there's any chop on the water. I'd think you can shop around carefully and come up with a good rig for around 1500 including the trailer. I have several boats but my favorite is a 14ft stumpknocker with a 25hp Merc. I'll have to look up what I paid for it. Good horsepower comes in handy when you're racing a storm back to the landing and it happens often this time of year. ps. around here, many local sportfishermen consider the stumpknocker boats the best for all around use, much like Apache's are to other popups. Both my fiberglass boats are stumpknockers. I can check out the market locally and let you know if I see something worthy.
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Post by eshoremd on Jun 4, 2005 2:19:25 GMT -5
well on motors my vote goes for yamaha, especially in saltwater, ive had yamaha, mercury, and evinrude
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Post by ncboman on Jun 4, 2005 12:34:28 GMT -5
I've never owned a Yamaha but a friend has and he likes them too. I've got 2 Mercs and a Johnson, all good motors. Had an Evinrude but sold it with the boat it was on. The Evinrude was a really good one, giving me years of troublefree service. I have an early 60's era 6hp Mercury that has to be the most durable outboard I've ever seen. I haven't used it in 20yrs because it's so big and heavy for the hp but that motor ran forever thru abuse and misuse but never has faltered. My current favorite is the 25hp Merc on the camo stumpknocker above. I have problems with the needle valve sticking right now but it's minor and the motor is old and has lots and lots of hours on it so little things are somewhat expected. That boat has a flat bottom and is a ball on a curvey creek. The 25 pushes it around 30mph, not really strolling but plenty fast for me. A good friend is a crabber and commercial fisherman and he wouldn't be caught dead with an old motor on any of his boats, of course many days his life depends on his motor. He buys new regularly but he's up in the 90hp class, definately a different league $$$. lol. He has no favorites and buys what he gets the best deal on.
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Post by ncboman on Jun 4, 2005 12:47:25 GMT -5
Rick, just a thought but I've seen some of the really large aluminum johnboats that are nice fishing boats for the money. Wide with high sides provide stability for kids moving about, etc. For fun fishing with kids I think at least a 16ft boat maybe 18ft. Wide allows for walking around safely and really increases the fun and safety. More room is good with youngsters. Lowprice serviceable fishing boats are always in somewhat demand so if you find a good deal, it's almost money in the bank. I'll pick up a current shopper and see what's for sell.
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Post by eshoremd on Jun 4, 2005 17:13:44 GMT -5
alan how much do you think i can get for a 1995 6hp mercury with about 20 hrs. in excellent condition. it was winterized and been in the garage untouched for 8 yrs. i was thinking $500, but i really have no clue. think it was $900 new
rick, just to give you an idea. 4 yrs (2001) ago i sold an aluminum v bottom 14' sea king (it was a '69 i think) w/ fishfinder and accessories w/1999 15hp evinrude and a 1999 trailer for $1800. everything was in excellent condition. even had swivel seats. i took this thing places you cant even imagine. the key with buying a boat is not to rush into it. keep your eyes open and buy in the fall for better prices.
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Post by freedomrules3 on Jun 4, 2005 20:36:39 GMT -5
well, through my searchings i have found out a couple of things . one in particular is people who live on the water like around here think their boats are worth alot more than they are, at least they are to me. this has taken my search a little farther from home but i have found a few goodies i am working on getting them to lower their prices even more hopefully . this one is far but i have family i can go stay a night with and pick it up. it looks very decent. pittsburgh.craigslist.org/boa/72878541.htmlnegotiating him down . this one is just one like some i am looking at , i have found many just like it for pretty cheap. kind of making me change my mind about a little rowboat now lol. a nice small 16 footer with a steering wheel wouldnt be bad either . cant wait till fall like i should but i will take my time unless one close by pops up and is too hard to pass up.
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Post by ncboman on Jun 4, 2005 21:07:10 GMT -5
good looking outfit for a grand but trihulls will wet you.
My friend who knows boats well advised me this about used boats,
'pay what you think you can sell the boat and trailer for without the motor. That way if the motor craps out, you're still in good shape.'
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Post by freedomrules3 on Jun 4, 2005 22:40:35 GMT -5
i do know tri hulls are a rougher ride , sure does look like its been taken care of though. after spending a week looking at boats and ppictures of boats i have seen some real messes that people think are worth money lol. i have seen some nice ones that are just over my cheap budget . i suppose i'm looking for that nearly free cherry deal lmao.
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Post by freedomrules3 on Jun 6, 2005 23:18:08 GMT -5
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Post by eshoremd on Jun 6, 2005 23:20:18 GMT -5
rick i would stay away from any bayliner prior to the late 90's. known to be real junk. theyre not that cheap for no reason
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Post by freedomrules3 on Jun 6, 2005 23:23:46 GMT -5
after really looking over that boat in particular, i found out there really isnt much to them at all. being a bit mechanically inclined, except for the actual internal engine stuff, i think i could handle nearly anything it could throw at me .
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Post by ncboman on Jun 6, 2005 23:31:20 GMT -5
Hey, Todd knows his boats. ;D
Bayliners were built here for a while and have gained the rep as a sorry boat. I know guys that worked there and of some horror stories about the boats. Stay clear of them.
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Post by freedomrules3 on Jun 6, 2005 23:31:35 GMT -5
my wife likes that style , the kids can be safe and she can ride up front . a later 90's model is out of the question on my budget ( already dipping into the hunting fund) . i like the v hull any suggestions on good late model brand that are similar? remember under 1500 lol.
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Post by ncboman on Jun 6, 2005 23:36:39 GMT -5
crossposted, grrrr ... dialup. Rick, there have been bayliners that have broke apart due to flaws in the fiberglass that were unseen until everyone was wet.
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